Posts by Beth Sarim

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CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

by JW_Rogue in

at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

Beth Sarim

This kind of thing just irks me to the core. I can't just describe the disgust.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

That's kind of what I meant of ''making you speak your mind''. They come across in kind of a good-natured way. Conversations start out with a warm handshake, then a friendly chat about ''gorgeous day'', yes ''what an awesome game last night!!''

That's kinda what I meant about ''making you speak your mind''. They befriend you, they know how to talk to you. Then once you feel comfortable, you open up. It's a technique employed by elders, or in high control groups. Elders make you feel all warm, and you loosen-up, that's how they get you.

From what I gather, Elders in certain areas go to all-weekend Elders schools where they are trained how to deal with people and situations where they employ their tactics.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Beth Sarim

Oh yeah I forgot!!

I was going to mention that elders apparently are well trained to ''pull out of ones mind'', so to speak in a way. This is a trick employed to get someone to inadvertently admit what they are thinking. They will have conversations with people to open them up and hear them.

The elders will talk with people and cleverly manipulate people to admit their doubts. Someone may be going through a tough time like missing many meetings and field service. A drop in visit by a couple of elders may occur out of the blue. A casual, leisurely conversation may take place. Then they drop the line, ''Do you believe this is God's organization?''

From that point on the elders can subject you to a judicial committee with any negative response. So, yeah be wary of any visits, that is of 2 or more people. Any negative response could determine your fate. Maybe albeit, for the better.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Beth Sarim

If there are any faders or doubters reading theses posts, all I have to say is;

LOOK OUT!!

I could just be talking out of me ass here, but it just seems like there was, or will be more and more WT studies about loyalty to the Borg and ratting out those who have doubts or petty wrongdoing on the side.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Beth Sarim

I've heard too in the last year to year-and-year-and-half, the Borg is having Elders disfellowship quicker and reinstate slower. This is to ratchet up control.

The elders now more than ever are quicker to go on witch hunts to ''sniff out doubters and apostates.'' The elders are more suspicious these days of faders.

Coupled that with the desperate attempts to retain funds, this has to point to desperation in attempt to keep the Borg afloat.

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question: Pinky rink, the ring i have seen on alot of the GB resembles a Masionic ring

by goingthruthemotions in

i get infuriated when i see the god's (guardians of doctrine) sporting pinky rings or rings on there right hands.

like a club association.

when i try and take a look at the ring it resembles a masionic ring.

Beth Sarim

It's funny that this thread has been brought up. You know, there are so many parallels with the Borg and the illuminati.

Someone somewhere else pointed out all the parallels like ''new world'' said over and over. I remember when going in field service the ''big'' pioneers saying things like ''new world order''. Now you see these broadcasts of these high-Borg people wearing all kinds of jewelry on their pinkies and what not.

Coupled that with their history of Charles Russell gravesite with that ludicrous headstone shaped like a pyramid. One really has to start wondering if the Borg indeed is somehow involved with the Masons. All the billions of dollars of assets they have,control over their members, stuff like this.

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CO visit must be coming up

by BeautifulMind in

the cobe of the cong we attended called me and left a vm, and also emailed both me and my husband.

this all happened yesterday.

he said he was checking in to see how our family was doing, which is a joke.

Beth Sarim

CO's are feared and awe-inspired. Enforcers, so to speak. Elders/MS's are so worried about keeping their titles, they HAVE to tell the CO that they are checking-up on people. It's gotta be thankless job.

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CO visit must be coming up

by BeautifulMind in

the cobe of the cong we attended called me and left a vm, and also emailed both me and my husband.

this all happened yesterday.

he said he was checking in to see how our family was doing, which is a joke.

Beth Sarim

You hit the nail on the head. The CO is an enforcer to the local elders. On the Thursday evening I believe it is of the visit they have this big meeting with all the elders and MS's and they go through each and every one of the rank and file of that congregation. The CO's asks about certain ones and certain elders answer up on everyone that they have in fact been contacted.

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Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

by James Jack in

just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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Beth Sarim

If this is how they treat their most ''loyal'' servants after giving untold decades of service this proves that people should give nothing at all to the Borg.

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Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

by James Jack in

just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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Beth Sarim

Agreed totally!! Something is horribly wrong if they are screwing over and crapping on their most loyal and most elite ones. Wow!!